This is the third hour on uh… December the 9th afternoon lectures. Uh… let’s further examine Agree and Have and characteristics of flow.

December 9th, unless I’ve lost track of a few dates, first hour of the afternoon lecture. We have today quite a little bit of coverage to do, because today we’re going to tie in several points now that we have covered ARC and Be, Have and Do, and all these cycles. And today we’re going to tie these into a first, a „What’s wrong with this universe,“ and second, a working package for an auditor.

I mean, when you examined the chart there on ARC, you found that volume per unit space determined the position on the tone scale. As you got down to the flows, dispersals and ridges, low on the tone scale towards 0, you had an awful lot of matter for a very small amount of space. And when you went up scale, you found out that you had little matter for lots of space.

Now, as you well know, there… there… there might possibly be something wrong uh… with the MEST universe. There might be something wrong with it. It’s an incredible thing that uh… anything could be built on a hundred and eighty degree reverse vector. Never give a win without giving a lose. Never let anybody get ahead unless they’re backwards.

Now that, of course, it’s uh… indicative there of considerable perversity, actually, as far as space and so forth is concerned. This is uh… also indicative of what aberration does and is. It’s too much per unit space. And you get no action in too much per unit space. You don’t even get much thinking in unit space as far as MEST universe beingness is concerned.

Uh… I don’t know if you have heard a tape on game processing. I will cover game processing before I get out of here, try to at least. But uh… how do you set up a game? How do you set up a game that will just go on forever?

So we start looking over the proposition, we find out that a person, then, should have quite a bit of space for his havingness. If he has a lot of space for his havingness, why, his time is fluid and he… he’s… he’s light, hi… his uh… aesthetics can more easily enter in because it’s very hard for an aesthetic wave to enter anything that’s very gross and heavy. An aesthetic wave doesn’t transmit easily over something that’s gross and heavy. That doesn’t say it can’t, but it just doesn’t.

Well, you say it’s one kind of a game and uh… lying right underneath that kind of a game you have an entirely different game going on. Now that’s set up this way. You very often find your preclear is suddenly turning up and he’s complaining that every time he goes into a between-lives area or something of this character, or what he calls that, he is saying that he’s… he… he’s being promised that if he just goes back one more time, why, the next time, why, he’ll practically be ruler of the universe, and all that sort of thing. And uh… this time he has to accomplish so-and-so and so-and-so. And they give him a very specific goal. And then what do you know. They booby trap it. They give him a very specific goal and then give him an aberration that makes it impossible to accomplish that goal.

Have you ever tried to draw a picture uh… for instance, and uh… you looked at the MEST universe reproduction you were making – you were going through the MEST universe you see – and the thing that comes out does not match what you should have built. This is the cry of all architects, painters, sculptors, and so on, is „Here… here is this horrible thing! Every time I try to think something up, it always falls short of“ they used to call it „the ideal.“ When they say „ideal,“ they might as well say „an idea.“

Actually, who’s they? They are uh… people remarkably like thee and me, but uh… either just a little further down or a little further up on the tone scale, what you call a player, an assistant player. And the game divides down into players, assistant players, pieces, and broken pieces. These are actually the component parts of a very wide game. But you can actually take an E-Meter, take any preclear – they don’t know anything about past lives or between-lives or anything of the sort – you put them on the E-Meter and you say, „All right, do you have any basic goals?“

Now the funny part about it is, is that theta can communicate in terms of ideas without this interruption of flows. You see, ARC becomes bad when you start getting into MEST universe type flows. And it becomes almost impossible to maintain. But as we go up the tone scale and things become lighter and lighter, a person can, of course, become much more ethical and at the same time, lots less serious.

And the fellow says, „Oh, I don’t know,“ the E-Meter goes bang!

It sounds funny that a person who is very serious is liable to fall short on his ethics. He is more likely to go into a moral code, something good and solid and heavy, you see, that’ll kill somebody unless he follows it – and that’s the idea.

And you say, „Well, now uh… at the beginning of this life did you have a certain job to do?“

So as we get up tone scale, we find that individuals are airier and lighter and actually more aesthetic. So that the heavier wave lengths are favored down around 0.0, and the lighter wave lengths are favored up around 40.0 and down. You see, you sort of have a scheme thereby by which… by which at 40.0 you have theta operating, really, only with uh… very close aesthetic waves; and down around uh… 1.0 or something of the sort, why you have theta mainly concerned with the solidity of objects. And… and it’s uh… that is to say, you’re worried in that band, you’re then worried about effort. How much effort is it to do something?

„Well, I… I kinda… kinda felt like it, but uh… uh… I’ve… I’ve often had the idea,“ and the E-meter’s going bang! bang!

The person who tries to do an aesthetic job on this universe will generally go down tone scale fairly fast because he’s trying to apply this light, airy little wave to things that are heavy masses. And it just doesn’t work out well.

And you say, „Did anybody tell you before you were born that you should do so-and-so and so-and-so?“ And the E-Meter will go off its pins.

You can mock up a stage and a play in your own mind which with a flash appears in great beauty. And uh… in the MEST universe it takes carpenters, and carpenters belong to unions; and uh… it takes lumber and that has to be sawed up, and that comes down, and there’s people that are worried about the… the mass of this – and uh… this and oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

All right, you start tracing this down and you find out that all his life this individual has been trying to accomplish this thing, trying to accomplish it; but he can’t accomplish it because he has an aberration that… now you can just trace it right there. What is the thing he has which does not permit him to accomplish this goal?

Now it takes a pretty airy hand, by the way, to handle a lot of MEST. You’d think it would take a very solid, serious hand. But that doesn’t handle MEST, not worth a nickel. It takes good airy treatment. If you can take a look out at a massive space and say, „Well, now let’s put something or other there.“

Of course this works out mechanically. You find out that an absolute’s unobtainable here; therefore if you had an absolute right, you would get the end of the universe. It just works out that way.

And uh… somebody comes around and they say, „Why do you want it there?“ „Well, I don’t know. It would just look good.“ And they say „Well, you’ve got to have a better reason than that.“

An absolute right would be a right on all eight dynamics, and if all eight dynamics were right, you would pass instantly into a static, and the universe would not be here anymore. And if you had an absolute wrong then all eight dynamics would be wrong and you would have the death of everything in the whole universe to have an absolute wrong.

You’d say, „Nuts to you, fella!“ Uh… because there isn’t any better reason than that.

So, it just works out mechanically, not paranoiacally, that uh… the individual who is given a basic goal in any between-lives area is also given much more abundantly the reasons he has to lose. And you will trace for any lifetime or for spirals or for the whole track, these various efforts to get something done. The pc definitely has the idea that he is an integral part of a large goal, that something is really trying to be done in this universe. And the most appalling, and upsetting thing in this universe is the fact that he has never at any time on the track been able to accomplish wholly one goal. Because every goal he has ever been given has a big lose tacked to it. You cannot win without losing; that’s this universe.

You want something to work on an aesthetic band. Of course, theta favors an aesthetic band because that’s closest in to motionlessness; it’s closest in to the fine wave length which can append to theta itself. Theta can communicate through aesthetics much, much before it is capable of communicating through reason.

Now let’s take a look at that and find out if the universe at large is more or less rigged on this basis, and in the meanwhile I invite you to do a little experimentation on the E-Meter with those principles.

And then people say „Well, I wonder what the reason was behind that painting.“

Uh… it’s… it’s… it’s just horrible, I mean this couldn’t happen to somebody. I mean he’s given the basic goal: at this time he ought to get something done and they… all kinds of specious statements have been made and this time he’s decided… You’re awfully… looking awfully gloomy. Don’t tell me that I’m hitting… hitting home with this.

Well, let’s just put the cart before the horse, and let’s put a couple more carts in front of the horse because that’s just nonsense. The reason behind the painting is the painting. That’s all. A person has to start on up tone scale to get the full appreciation out of this.

Well, his… his whole modus operandi keeps getting jammed and he can’t quite figure out why this is. Well, he’ll jam it himself. You watch this odd phenomenon of a fellow going right straight toward a goal and he’s just evidently succeeding beautifully on this goal and then the next thing you know, bong! He’s wrecked his car or he’s… he’s thrown something in there. There’s something weird has entered in suddenly that kept him from reaching that tall cliff.

Well, let’s look a little bit more at Have and Have Not, and Agree and Disagree, and Want and Not Want, and we find out that there is such a thing as a tractor beam. And there’s such a thing as pressor beams. So you can reverse this situation with selective use of tractors and pressors. You can have something move in your direction with a tractor beam, and when it starts to agree, it’ll get an outflow. You’re pulling agreement out of something. You get that.

Well now, this is a very simple thing. That is: no win without a lose. Of course, if any piece won, that piece would be a player, and here on Earth we on… by and large, don’t even have pieces, and out in the slave strata of the outer… of outer space you don’t have pieces, you have broken pieces. And a fellow gets up to being a piece again and uh… he… he wants to go right into action unless you’ve pulled the trip on this goal.

Every once in a while you’ll find somebody that has a reversal on Agree and Disagree. What they’re doing is operating on somebody else’s tractor. They’re… they’re… they’re not… they’re not doing too well in a lot of ways and a lot of things.

It’s a… it’s a phony, this goal is. In the first place, nobody has any use whatsoever for this universe. There is no show to be gotten on the road by the MEST universe. That is the horrible thing about the MEST universe, is that there isn’t even a secret about it. The big secret about the MEST universe is that there is no secret.

They’re… you say, „All right, now get the flow of Agree,“ and this person will get the flow – yeah, they’ll get an outflow! Tohoohoo. What’s this mean? It means the space immediately in front of them isn’t even vaguely theirs; and it means that they are flowing at something else’s command and behest; and that this something else’s agreement has become almost a coincidence of space with this person. This person will then be found to be more or less in valence with somebody else, so that their agreements cause an in-pull. That would be by a tractor wave.

You will notice the modus operandi of mystery in this universe. You see, it doesn’t happen to be a pattern for all universes, fortunately, but the modus operandi of mystery is simply to hide nothing.

You very often find a person’s parents, for instance, have fixed tractor waves on them. This is tractor waves of desire – very interesting. They’ve got tractor waves on him. The parents pull.

Lord Dunseny tells one of the most wonderful stories about a monastery which was scheduled to fall one day, and this monastery was up on a high hill and there was a rumor and a legend had gone forward for many centuries that on a certain day the monastery would fall. And uh… the day came, and one of the peasants in the valley walked up to the monastery and walked in the front gate. He was quite astonished to find no guards on duty because the guards were back in a corner of a courtyard weeping because that day the monastery was scheduled to fall.

Now there’s reverse tractors too. There isn’t any reason to get too wound up about this because this is very simple. People go around with „wanting to be wanted“ tractors. How do you work that out? Well, here we have „I“ and „I“ has this tractor wave which is not a compulsion, but he’s doing a „Schluurph.“ „You will agree.“ Now unfortunately that, of course, gets on anybody but the quite aberrated, that gets this flow uh… pardon me, on any but the quite aberrated this would be uh… agree. So what we get is this flow with that tractor.

And so he walked on through to an inner chamber and he was not stopped because all of the guards there were weeping ‘cause the monastery was scheduled to fall that day, and he walked on into an inner sanctum and an inner sanctum sanctorum sanctorum plus, and uh… finally came down unguarded corridors to the largest central room of this entire place where the mystery of all mysteries of all mysteries was kept, and here behind, at the far side of the room… obviously, the mystery was behind these huge black curtains, and he walked over and he looked at the curtains and he thought, „Well, it’s a very adventurous thing to do,“ but the monastery was scheduled to fall that day, so he adventured to do it. And he reached up and he pulled the curtains down and there was nothing there. And the monastery fell that day.

So we get this „You will agree“ tractor is resulting in that. See how that is? He pulls in „You will agree“ and he gets disagreement. See how that is? He wants to be agreed with and he gets disagreed with: that’s the trick.

That is any mystery there is in the MEST universe. Of course, it fell, it didn’t have a mystery. And that’s true of any mystery. The boys who sit down and beat their knuckle bones and drums… oh, be… beg your pardon, they don’t do that in this culture. Let’s see, what do they do in this culture? Oh, yes, they… they uh… flick a phallic symbol over the audience. Yeah, now just a minute, I’ll get it. I… I get these ethnologies mixed up. Uh… they uh… yeah, they have these gourd – no, it’s beads, beads, beads, they count beads in this place. Anyway, uh… they… they had uh… all of these things of that character.

Now, he’ll get around to a point, then, where he’ll reverse this vector and he’ll put a tractor wave with the open end thataway. And it says „agree“ – „You will agree“. And what he does is want this person over here to pull in. He wants this person over here to grab on to that tractor and agree.

Now there is a tremendous facade, with tremendous proof and yet the biggest business of the Middle Ages was manufacturing authentic religious relics. All you had to do was hide their history and they immediately became authentic.

Do you see here, Figure 2? People go around with these doggone fool reverse-end tractors that they fasten on people. They put the open end of the tractor on people to get these people to want them, to desire them. And this actually is the way sensation works.

Now just look at this, look at this. The monastery fell that day because the mystery is no mystery. And, of course, when its mystery was gone, the monastery was gone, all right. You lift the curtain on the MEST universe and you find nothing there. It’s just empty.

If you’re around a pretty girl, or something like that, very long, boy she’s got one of these tractors here which is just doing a beautiful job. Figure 2: She says „Want me. Want me. Want me.“

They… they tell you, „All right, now what you’re supposed to do, is you just go down to that galaxy, that solar system, or let’s do something or other, and let’s get everything all set because actually the real truth of the matter is that uh… this culture’s growing fairly old and we need a new culture and we ought to do something with that.“ And you go down into this system and you find everybody rushing this way and rushing that way and trying to get something done, and just the second a man finds his hands upon the bushel basket full of gold, just the moment the person is about to drive in the last spike of the imposing city, just at the instant when he has success within his grasp, just as Dumas ended his… after twenty years, the marshal’s baton of France is being extended to the hero of the story, and as he reaches for it saying it was about time he got it, a cannon ball takes off his head.

The odd part of it is, the second anybody picks up that tractor, what do they start? They start, in Figure 3, they start of course, this flow, which again is „Don’t have me“.

There’s no win. Now this is… this is actually part of the postulates of the MEST universe. Don’t… don’t… don’t look at it in reverse. Don’t look at it and say, „The energy behaves that way. That’s why these other things behave that way.“ No, the energy behaves that way because of postulates. You see, the postulates are senior to, in any case, the behavior of any particular field of action. The postulate is the senior thing in the pc although the pc is made out of energy.

So this is… this up here is „Want me“ and this is „Reject, me“. The second that thing is pulled on. So you get the tease variety. This is because… and what happens is it’s an automatic recurrence. I mean, it’s just an automatic action. The second this person – although they have this tractor up there with an open end, ready for anybody to use – the second anybody starts to hook energy in their direction or pull in their direction they feel an outflow and the outflow immediately causes them to feel „Don’t have me.“ And so you get the extreme caprice on such a thing.

Now how does the energy behave in the MEST universe? Well, I want to show you that the mystery was no mystery. We have two kinds of energy in the MEST universe. There’s have energy and have not energy.

Now this works this way in… in… in uh… where you get a… one of these tractors. It, of course, works over here with uh – this person is doing an in-pull, and so on.

MY! Some of you look awfully grim about this. I don’t… I don’t really blame you as a matter of fact. Uh… it… it so happens… it so happens that there are goals amongst the universes, there are universes. It so happens that there are universes where uh… love and other things can flourish and where a person can sit down on a pink cloud for twenty or thirty thousand years, and just sit there and nobody will come along and say, „Hey, uh… now uh… we’d like you to volunteer.“

You could actually have a situation where „you“ here, has one of these open-ended tractors and where „I“ here has uh… an open-ended tractor. And what do you get? You get coincidence of being: they both want to be wanted. They both want to be wanted, and there can be a momentary stability of wantingness. And this line up here contracts from point A to point B and then contracts to what? AB – to a point.

And the fellow says, „I don’t want to volunteer,“ and uh… so then… then there’s this… he hears this little hissing sound, ssssssssss, and he says uh…

And then you have two people living the same life, or a thetan in a head. Now one of the things that happens is that when this line starts collapsing, you get a coincidence of being. You just get a momentary stability or instability, and some very successful combinations are when both parties want to be wanted, and they find out that each one wants to be wanted, and they get a coincidence of being. And each one stays fairly stable on this as long as they continue to be assured that the other one wants them.

They say, „All right, now that you’ve volunteered, you know you’ve volunteered, don’t you?“

But don’t let them find out the other one doesn’t want them! Because neither one of these waves, here in Figure 4, contains „I want you.“ They don’t have an „I want you“ there in Figure 4. There’s „I want you to want me.“

And he’ll say, „Yes, I agreed, yeah, I volunteer,“ on his way, there he goes.

So we get this horrible situation, really grim situation, of two people – they go along for years, each one of them perfectly sure that the other one wants them, instead of wants to be wanted – and then one day… one day there’s a little cuff or something of the sort and all of a sudden „you“ over here or „I“ uh… has got this floppy tractor wave that is temporarily disconnected or something of this sort and quite inadvertently somebody else says to them „I want you“ – schluurp! That’s all… all anybody has to say on that.

That’s a very odd thing but you’ll get any pc that you want to put up there will say, „I volunteered, yes, I agreed to this.“

Or this person, „you“ or „I“ in this case, happens to say, „Want me. Want me. Want me,“ about one time too often, „Want me“ – and uh… then at the same time says „Well now so and so and so and so is wrong with you. And so and so and so and so ought to be.“ Because you still get something on the order of an outflow. You get disagreement with each other although you get a coincidence of beingness. They both start occupying the same space.

And you just ask him three times, no more, no less, don’t infer anything, not even by a tone of voice, and just say, „Are you sure now that you volunteered of your own free will?“ He will look kind of odd for a moment. And you say, „Well, now we’re just asking you factually just to make sure we get it straight. Was it of your own free will that you volunteered? Was there any… there was no persuasion of any kind used?“ And the E-Meter suddenly goes neeeeooooow.

So this person… they become somewhat disagreeable to each other, and one of them may wake up one day to realize that he really isn’t wanted at all, at which moment this will break up an interpersonal relationship – whether it’s a marriage or whatever it is.

The body that’s held in pawn, the goals which are extended to him, these big volunteer projects, started out something in this fashion. There was a big building. He was curious, he was very curious, and he… he wanted to know what was in the big building. It was very fancy.

Well those are tractors – all up and down the line here.

Maybe this fellow had a… had a… job, maybe he was already doing something. And he was going around through the civilization. He was already in use and uh… he saw this big building and he thought uh… he’d heard some mystery had taken place in there so he goes in to take a look. It’s wide open, it’s very easy to walk into, and what does he find?

Now how does this work in the animal kingdom? How does this work in the animal kingdom, where it comes to dog eat dog and so forth? All right, we have this little animal gallumping along and a big animal comes along and goes „Snoffle.“ Well, the big animal says „I want“ and the small animal hauls back furiously to keep from being had, and of course by that fallback says „I agree“ and gets et. You see what happens? He’s trying to haul back as in Figure 2 there, you see, and he actually finishes off and energizes the big animal’s tractor.

He finds this enormous stone hanging suspended in the middle of a room. This is an incident called the Emanator, by the way. And this thing is, by the way, the source of the Mohammedan Lode Stone that they have hanging down there that uh… when uh… Mohammed decided to be a good uh… small town booster in uh… Kansas Middle East or something of the sort… by the way, the only reason he mocked that thing up is the trade wasn’t good in his home town. That’s right. You can read the life of Mohammed. And he’s got a black one and it’s sort of hung between the ceiling and the floor and, I don’t know it… maybe it’s called a casbah or… or… or something. Any… anyway that thing is a mock-up of the Emanator. The Emanator is bright, not black.

The big animal had an open-ended tractor there as in Figure 1, IX – „You will agree“ it says; „You will agree.“ Well, this is a pull; the small animal starts to disagree and then he energizes this big tractor here, and in he goes – kaboom!

And so your volunteer, who is just on a sightseeing trip, goes in and this thing is standing in the middle of the room, and it’s going wong, wang, wang, wang, wong, and he says, „Isn’t that pretty?“ It sure is. And then he says, „Neeeooow ponk.“ Well I tell you, they cart him from there and they take him in and they do a transposition of beingness.

And he gets the weirdest sensation. You ought to run this on a preclear, or run it on yourself some day; „the… the joy of being eaten.“ It is the weirdest, most perverted, amuse – uh… uh… uh it… it… it’s a… it is an emotion which is indescribable until you’ve really experienced it. „Oh, I’m being eaten. I’m serving my purpose, after all, in the MEST universe.“ More doggone rationalization, you see. And it just comes out of this weirdly here.

Transposition could be the technical term for… and is a very, very technical term and a very authoritative word, and I want you to take particular note of it because I just made it up. Uh… the transposition would be that act of taking a person who is here and under influence, like hypnosis or something of this sort, persuading him to be somewhere else and then monitoring him somewhere else by addressing the body which is kept in a state of trance or drugs here.

So you wonder why yo… you wonder why animals insist on eating dead meat all the time. And they go around and they eat meat. Of course, they want the live animal and they get the dead one, and they get accustomed to eating carrion. And do you know that all across Earth here, nothing is eaten but carrion. There’s nothing but dead meat eaten, as far as meat is concerned.

You will find the lostness of your preclear normally stems from these transpositions, and why he can’t remember his past track, past this life, is partially because he doesn’t have anything from that period and the other is that he’s lost his space, and if he’s having trouble with space you’ll find these transpositions.

Now the alligator has become very slow and very cautious about his havingness, so he buries it for a long time and lets it rot before he eats it. He wants to be sure it’s not going to go the other way on him.

Little girl, she’s sitting on the curb, she’s playing uh… with a… jacks or something of the sort, and this will be in the year, oh, a couple trillion years ago, and she’s sitting on this big, beautiful city and here’s a very, very nice-looking hussar uh… who rides up and says uh… officer, and he said, uh… „How are you?“ and… and gives her some candy. Well, after she passes out, uh… why, he takes her across the saddle bow and takes her into the… into the big castle and there she is placed in a room remarkably like those that are in use right at this moment. Uh… there’s a shining grate or something of this sort and it keeps her in a state of trance.

Now that interchange, then, your animals run around and the animals that are running around saying „Want me. Want me. Have me. Have me. Have me“ and all that sort of thing, so you say „All right. I’ll have you.“ Crunch! They can actually, at that last instant, pull so hard back that they get the feeling like they’re agreeing like mad with being eaten. That’s very low tone scale – very, very low tone scale.

Well, they take her, persuade her that she is a prostitute or something like that, or they get a prostitute and they bring her in there too. And they swap those bodies and then they will send this little girl off to all of a sudden occupy or take over the body of some political uh… some queen or something of the sort someplace or another, and make a prostitute of her so that she will disgrace the king and the government will fall. And this is politics par excellence MEST universe.

That thing which desires to be eaten, then, is actually enMEST, because the fear and endocrine injections into the body of something that is trying to resist that hard under that kind of a delusion is pure poison. What you get’s enMEST, any way you look at it.

Uh… isn’t this wild? Incredibly wild. I haven’t seen this done here on earth uh… to any great extent at all. As a matter of fact, I haven’t seen it done here on earth as such. I’ve done it, but I haven’t seen it done.

Now I hope you’ve seen that there is, actually, a happy solution to this. I hope you understand now that it isn’t all dark, that it’s a happy solution to it, that there actually are conditions there of uh… happy agreement whereby… whereby two animals uh… eating each other up uh… one agrees with the other – at least we have that.

Now when I started finding this on the E-Meter, I decided that it’s something we ought to look into. And so I… I got ahold of a… of a… of a… well, he was in terrible shape anyway, and uh… uh… he… he… he’d never liked Dianetics. Ah… and uh… I don’t know, he’s probably all right right now, he’s probably happy. Ah… we had an awful lot of trouble with the body though. Uh… and uh… he went afterwards down to Fairhope, Alabama, and he hasn’t been doing too well, but one of these days we’ll give him his soul back. That’s all a joke, by the way.

Now one of the reasons why you have to have a group before you can have interpersonal relations is here very self-evident. A group gets together and it has, or it wants, and it’ll do so simultaneously. And it’ll operate as a unit organism, practically, a group will. And it’ll be a very high-level agreement and there will be very good ARC and they’ll just get along just fine. Why? Because they don’t want each other.

Uh… anyway, just experimented – this is a number of years ago – just experimented this way, can you send a person zip zip zip. Well, I didn’t know the mechanics exactly of what they did in this universe with this thing, you know. Could you send a person zip to here and there to there? Was this just astral walking? Or was it actually… did we produce a result? Well, it’s all right to sit around and theorize and say, „Well, astral walking is this and something or other is that.“ As a matter of fact, astral walking is the palest shade of anything like this. Just the palest of shades. And uh… this uh… do… can we actually make this person influence somebody at a distance?

But therefore a group could only exist as long as there was no difference in castes in the group. You couldn’t have a lot of artificial castes in a group, like ranks and uh… there’s one thing you can say about the military services: some people are ranker than others.

And by working on it, really working on it, putting him into a very deep trance, narcosynthesis uh… which is used every day on people. And… very, very, very funny, I mean nobody ought to fool around with a human mind that doesn’t know his hat from his horse, uh… nobody.

Now here… here you… you – the second you get a disparity and you get this introduction of rank, of course the group falls to pieces and its effectiveness goes to hell, because the admiral’s throat is being cut by the rear-admiral, and the rear-admiral’s rear is being cut by the captains, and so on, and they’re all jockeying around on an „I’ve got to have“ and „I’ve got to have“ is „You can’t have.“ And things get pretty enMESTy.

That’s right, uh… because psychiatry does this unwittingly all the time. They throw a guy under narcosynthesis and they say, „Be back on the battlefield now, all right you’re on the battlefield. Well, you were unconscious at that moment so we won’t pay any attention to that, now let’s go through,“ and so on. And the guy comes home and he walks around like a zombie and they wonder what’s wrong with him.

One of the favorite tricks for the MEST universe can be seen in a military service whereby they give somebody a tank and they say, „This is your tank.“

You go ahead and you get one of these fellows and you have to collect him off this battlefield. They actually sent him over to the battlefield and the guy’s been sitting over there on Green Beach One for three years looking at the waves come in, saying, „I wonder where the battle was?“

The fellow, „But I don’t want a tank.“

Yeah, yeah, wonderful, isn’t it? All right, uh… so I sent this… this… this – three guys as a matter of fact – I sent several of them, but I… I hate to break down and tell you about that. Uh… none of them liked Dianetics so it’s all right uh… and uh… one of them was, well, that’s all right.

Well, he’s all right as long as he’s saying „I don’t want a tank“ but uh… let him say, let him say „Oh gee! They’re going to take my tank away from me!“ and yank! she’ll lose it right now.

Ah… anyway, could we take a homo sapiens and just simply tell him he was somebody else and make him orient and regulate and monitor the activities of the person we told him he was? Yes, to this extent, to tell this guy, drugged, to go over and get ahold of Bill and be Bill and have Bill get into the car and drive straight up to the front door.

Now, furthermore, they give him this, and then he’s got it – but they’ve got him. Anything they give him, they get him too. If he fails to accept anything from them and fails to pay any attention to anything, his career is just spectacular. Unless the Army of course is trying to get something done, or something I never heard of when I was in. But they depend on privates and sergeants and second lieutenants to get something done in wars. I mean, after all, that isn’t the purpose of a military organization to get anything done.

You give it 15 minutes and you look outside and there’s Bill. So just as Bill is going to get out of the car and before you have any slightest chance of doing anything else here just take this fellow and bat him around a little bit and wake him up and say, „You are still Bill, now drive down to the City Hall and apply for a marriage license. Now you are driving down, now apply for this marriage licence. Now go on down there. Now go on, walk up,“ and so on.

Uh… but it’s very very remarkable how easily this works out. By the way, I found this out empirically: I uh – tell you very briefly – I reported in – Robert Montgomery was uh… on duty at the naval operating base down in uh… San Pedro, and I’d just gotten out of the hospital. They took me off the ship and hospitalized me, and then they let me out of the hospital. And I got out of the hospital and the ship had gone. And so they sent me over to the officer’s pool, and there was nobody over at the officer’s pool to amount to anything, and by this time they’d lost all their… all their navigators were at sea and things like that. And there were a lot of people around, but they came from the Department of Agriculture and uh… I simply checked in and went over to bachelor officer’s quarters and uh… unpacked my bag very carefully. Chose some good quarters by moving a couple of guys out, and unpacked my bag and went down to the library and I got a great big stack of novels, and I went back up and I sat down and I started to read novels.

All of a sudden this fellow Bill calls you up and he says, „You know,“ he said, „I’m beginning to worry about my mind. You know that yesterday I applied for a marriage licence and I don’t even know any girls.“ This was in Hollywood, and of course no Bill in Hollywood would be interested in girls.

And the days went by, I was perfectly happy, I was reporting in to chow and so on. Everything was going along just beautifully. Until all of a sudden an orderly came over and he says „Sir,“ he said, „um, the Commanding Officer wants to see you immediately“, and so forth, and I said „Oh, I’ll be over.“

So you want to know: Can it work – does it work? Does it exist? Is it phenomena? Boy, is it!

I’d been at the war, by the way, about two years by this time and I really was bored with it. So anyhow, anyhow I’d go over about two or three hours later to report to the Commanding Officer, and he comes out. And boy, he’s fire and brimstone. „Your name has been on that bulletin board for three days. An officer is supposed to read that every morning at eight o’clock. Your name’s been up there because there’s a YMS out here and there’s nobody – to take it to San Pedro and somebody’s got to take it to San Pedro and there isn’t another officer around here to take this YMS down to San Pedro, and you’re supposed to take it down there. It’s lost its captain.“

Your preclear has been… been shuttled. Many of your preclears that are really lost have been shuttled from hither to thither to whither until they finally don’t know what… if they’ve got any space. One moment they… they’re… they’re sightseeing, they’re on… they’ve just gotten off a ship or… or something of the sort, and they’re walking along and there’s this big, beautiful building and it says Free Excursions: See the… the panoramic or something, and… and they walk in and that’s… their ship is still sitting out on some airport some place. The baggage is still in some waiting room, the wife and kiddies are still wondering – hardly, because this is probably millions of years ago – they’re still wondering whatever happened to him. And, of course, it’s just too horrible a fact for him to face that all of a sudden, he could cease to be here and suddenly materialize there as somebody else. You wonder what happened to his space – it’s scrambled all over the place.

And I said „Ummm-hmmm.“ And uh… I said „I’ll go over and see about it tomorrow.“ „Oh,“ he said. „What… what’s the matter with you?“ And I said, „Well, Commander“ I says, „it’s been a long war.“ „Oh, see here now,“ he says. „You… you can’t quit like this.“

Now I… I could give you… give you a rundown on this and maybe… maybe I will. But it’s… it’s just too fantastic for words. That’s just too fantastic so, of course, nobody would believe it, and that again is the main stock-in-trade of the MEST universe.

That’s a verbatim conversation. I went down and saw the YMS, but I didn’t take it to San Diego, I decided that the executive officer could take it down to San Diego. Told him so and came back and reported. And I said „It’s on its way.“

You notice that everybody triggers on a „I can’t believe it.“ You notice that… that’s some of the nicest mechanisms there is. The reason why Scientology can’t actually take the guts of nuclear physics, extend them; we’re more usefully in the direction of chain fission, low-order chain fission than the boys are out at Los Alamos. We could take that, we could ship it to Russia, we could ship it to Germany, we could do anything we wanted to.

They gave me a job operating the nucleus crew training program, and I went out in the morning, and I’d go out in the little boat. And we had a… a radarscope fixed so that we could tell whether or not the nucleus crew was navigating the ship properly, and I sat down in the cabin and played cribbage with the captain. We looked at the radarscope and saw we didn’t run aground anyplace and I’d slop around. Then I’d call this small boat that I had standing on and off to see that… I’d call it aboard and I’d go ashore and have dinner.

I could go down here and take an electronic laboratory and build a gimickgahoojit that would bop bop gamma rays like mad and we’d just have the most fun. Nobody would pay a bit of attention to what was going on. Why? That is the main mechanism of the MEST universe. Does it immediately agree with a person’s immediate surroundings? Well, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t exist. Oh-ho, nobody is really permitted to imagine out beyond the surroundings in which he finds himself. That’s one of these agree mechanisms.

Very, very interesting. And they… they keep… every time they’d look for you, you weren’t there. But the main reason for this was, is you just didn’t care.

You do something that is completely out of agreement… supposing, supposing we went down and… the doggonedest things could happen, you know. Ah… you could suddenly take over the Empire State Building in New York City and uh… if you had it on the proper deeds and so forth and… and everything was all set up, why, you’d have the Empire State Building as long as you’d gone through the agreement of the environment. The whole society is wide open, it’s just like it’s Swiss cheese, it’s very solid compared to this… this society. It just lies here; it’s as porous as a sponge and nobody eats it up. Somebody ought to wonder why.

I ran this into the ground – just ran it into the ground. There’s nobody could act like this in a military service. Nobody! Finally wound up with the Commanding Officer hysterically wiring Washington to get me put on duty at that base.

There’s two reasons why, is MEST has no real value, and the other reason why is… is because there are a lot of people making awfully sure right now this place doesn’t get eaten up.

This is a… this is strictly a case history. I could give you thousands of them.

Now I ask you to… to qualify all that I’m telling you and realize that it’s far too incredible, far too incredible to oh… actually be. But don’t get an E-Meter and start asking questions. You start to collect your preclear in space, you start to sum up his space, where did he suddenly cease to exist and where is he still trying to hold on, and you will get a state of mind which says… which has no fluidity. It… it says… it says, „Now look, it’s happened to me once too often. I was here and then all of a sudden, bow, I was someplace else and… and I… I’m sure I’m here,“ and your preclear is hanging on to any anchor point the MEST universe cares to give him. He knows he’s here.

But we’ve got this thing operating.

Your preclear as you’re processing him on mock-ups will occasionally open his eye and look around the room just to make sure he’s here. And he’s… he’s… where’s here? Well, any here is better than no here, so he at least knows he has a location, that he hasn’t suddenly gone zook and appeared on Arcturus as a street sweeper.

Now you go up there, you’re real eager; you want to get this war won; you’re going… you’re very enthusiastic, out-going and so forth, and you’d think that everybody’d start agreeing with you if you’d keep this outflow going, and enthusiasm, and you’re going to get this show on the road, and so forth.

Oh, it’s fantastic enough uh… when you come to think about this, that uh… that something like this could go on and never get detected even vaguely. Well, fortunately, it’s very easy to solve. It is tremendously easy to solve once you know spacation. Because you can just solve it by mocking up anchor points and that sort of thing and the fellow is ill… you’ll wonder why this makes a fellow feel so much better. Actually he’s… most of your people have been transported and supertransported too wildly for his own credibility, much too wildly.

Well, you’re running into a lot of people who may be wanting to get the show on the road, too, but there’s such a thing as rank and all that sort of thing, and everybody crashes, so everybody thinks everybody’s disagreeing with everybody else because there’s an outflow and it all by… wou… winds up and everybody gets sore.

Now, at the same time, just because that condition of affairs can exist – and it can only exist because it is unknown, that is, it’s a mystery, it’s hidden – just because that strange state of nonsensical things can exist uh… disconnected uh… uh… the fellow loses when he thinks he’s winning and he wins when he loses and all this is hidden back of the lines, is because of two things.

Or you… you see how that would be?

That is, one, the preclear himself never got oriented the instant he stepped into the universe. He was disoriented at that moment because it was strange space and he is at the present time gripping with terrible tenacity to any orientation to which he can credit a reality – any one. So one of the reasons why mock-up creative processing works is because it, for the first time, starts to treat the only anchor points he ever had or he ever will have.

Now theoretically, you could keep a heavy enough outflow flowing so that people would agree with you, and – ha! – what do you know? They’d then have you. You get people agreeing with you, they have you. And if they have you, then your time is just zong! You just get out of control of your own time.

He… he doesn’t have any other anchor points than his own anchor points, but somebody could come along with trickery and drugs and persuasion and shift him from one place to another just grandly and beautifully and here you have, then, your preclear losing space and appearing in one space and in another space.

So the spiral down is this spiral of Agreement-Disagreement – and that’s the shortening principle of the dwindling spiral of the MEST universe. That’s why these spirals get shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter. And that’s why a fellow’s space becomes less and less and less and less. Until he finally winds up here.

This material becomes deadly when your psychotic is faced with it – just deadly. Oh, it’s just grim. The poor guy has com… he has adequate reason to be completely fruitcake, anybody has, and somewhere along the track he’s taken refuge in the fact that he was no longer responsible so somebody could stop punishing him.

All right. Now what’s… what’s this… how do you reverse this game? Well, there’s two ways to reverse this game. One of them is you just go away and never have anything more to do with any thetan of any kind or character whatsoever, and you’ll get no ARC set-ups. Then you can have a good time sitting around doing mock-ups… and… and just skip the whole thing.

And you see when a guy can’t die, he can be punished and punished and punished and punished and punished, so his final answer to inability to die is to say, „I’m not responsible and I can’t be responsible,“ and the… the substitute in the thetan for death is insanity. And that, of course, came about and the person chose the substitute of insanity before he chose uh… to have a body and have it die.

That’s really not a terribly bad solution. You don’t think it’s amusing to do mock-ups, perhaps right now, to the degree that it is amusing to do them; or just start games and stop them of your own creation, because you’ve had an unhappy experience as a little kid. That’s no – I mean, when you didn’t have any playmates.

You know, it’s a very good thing to have a body because we have an agreement here… here and that is to say when you kill the body the fellow is legally dead. You can only go so far with punishment. You can’t keep going after that point.

Believe me, don’t make that mistake. Playmates really aren’t necessary. But the little kid had a lot of other factors before he wanted a playmate. He’s already all messed up, and aloneness to him becomes something horrendous. And boy, is aloneness -

Now these incredibilities add up to a squirrel cage, and when a fellow starts looking at the unknowness of it, he’ll suddenly stop knowing himself.

When aloneness is really felt and one suffers from aloneness, is he down the tone scale – oh, brother! That’s one thing that MEST has just simply got to do, and that’s to get together with more MEST. Aloneness.

What is knowingness composed of? It’s composed of having anchor points and being able to handle and combine energy. That’s all known… knowingness consists of really. It’s… if you can do that then you have the capability of knowing, which is to say, computing anything that has to do with a universe. Now if you can do those things, you see, the data which we have here… look, all of the data we have is MEST universe data. There’s datum after datum after datum and they’re all MEST universe data just as though they were important.

But this does not mean that that is THE solution; very far from it. You can… you see, if there was just energy and if there was just such a thing as positive and negative energy, all would be lost. Fortunately, that’s not the case. Mock-ups don’t even have to be built out of energy. They can simply be built out of an agreement that that’s the way it looks. You don’t have to have anything there for anybody to see to have a complete communication with mock-ups.

It doesn’t really matter a tinker’s doggone where this preclear has been transported to from one place to another; it does not matter a bit how much MEST universe space he has lost. It doesn’t matter how many identities have been taken away from him, really, in this universe; that is of no consequence. Rut a psycho, all of a sudden, is faced with some terrible problem in this life and he starts to look for the answer and he starts to look, God help him, in his facsimiles, and the second he starts to look for the answer to some all-pervasive problem about knowingness, the wrong place to look is facsimiles because the energy in them is rigged backwards. It is zong, 180 degree wrong. So uh… the fellow starts looking through this and of course he knows less and he knows less and he knows less. What is he finding out from these? He’s finding out past identities, but these identities were not his identity.

You get a lot of preclears trying to do that who can’t yet handle energy and get through this universe. That becomes very interesting, because, what are they doing? What are they doing there? They’re just going to get a concept and they’re going to permit themselves to be completely machine- gunned from all sides continually with all this energy. And they’re content, then, to say, „Well, I’m above all this energy stuff.“ And it’s a funny thing; their concepts aren’t clear, because here they are, sitting in and dependent upon energy. And in order to get out of where they’re sitting and their dependency on energy, they’ve got to be able to handle energy so they can kick it in the teeth. And if they can’t handle force and energy, they can’t kick it away from them. So it’ll continue to trap them.

His identity is solely and only his own beingness high on the tone scale, that identity which he assigns to himself is his individualism; that’s his individualism. Uh… he is actually has to be robbed of his individualism to become John Jones, which is an identity.

So, we look at the… we look at this game and we say, „Well now, who would possibly get along in this game and who wouldn’t get along in this game? Well, you can get a very high-level group of thetans. They can get together and they can set up teams and play chess and have a good time, make lots of space, lots of action, if they want to go in that direction. But there are entirely different things that can be done that are just as much fun, if not more so, than on the space-energy idea.

So uh… that’s all the identity the fellow’s ever going to have and he just hasn’t made up his mind to it. Uh… but he still thinks that it was more important to have been assigned an identity; you get preclears coming around and saying, uh… „I was uh… Noah,“ or… or… or something of this sort, „and I have these terrible crimes upon my back, yap yap.“ It will… so what, so what?

The space-energy idea is highly specialized, and of course, every time you crooked it into line with a positive-negative terminal of opposites, why of course you get „When you win, you’ve got to lose; when you lose, you’ve got to win.“ –

You’ll find, by the way, another manifestation is preclears will shift identities and borrow facsimiles like mad. There’s what they call the Christ game and that game has been played and played and played and played – honest to Pete, these cards are just so thin. They’ve been laid down amongst the coffee cups and so forth of a whole universe.

And the more serious you take the game, the less chance there is of winning. The bottom of the tone scale is „Lose,“ and the top of it is „Win.“

You’ll find out thousands of years before the year one A.D. Earth, you will have facsimiles and dolls made up like Christ. Fac One a million years ago is occasionally rigged with Christ and the Devil and an angel. It’s a fascinating thing, it’s an old game.

This tells you it takes lots of space, and lots of unseriousness to win.

Here on Earth there was undoubtedly a Christ. Well, one of the reasons he was… he swept in so suddenly uh… and… and he would go forward so hard is he had a good assist back of him in terms of an implant.

These things called „universes“ are games. And really the most valuable thing that a thetan possesses is his spirit of play. His spirit of play is sensation of play, and is not just energy. It’s… it’s… it’s a tremendous sensation. A guy has… has practically lost it if he’s here on Earth at all. Spirit of Play. It’s tremendous: he’s depending on all sorts of the soggiest, low tone scale emotions imaginable in order to get any sensation. In substitute for what? Spirit of Play.

All right. Now he… you’ll find preclears, and this is a little problem that will come up with you. You’ll find preclears all of a sudden are Christ. You will actually find a preclear will go all the way through with a crown of thorns and every other darn thing. Just look for an overt act against Christ, and it solves itself.

For instance, sex is… is… is – boy, that’s about eighth-rate as an emotion. It is just dull – incalculably dull compared to the rapidity, randomity and actual sensation of the Spirit of Play. It’s way up there. And uh… you couldn’t possibly think that anybody could be serious and win through this universe. The more serious they get – 1.5 is real serious – why, of course, the more serious they get the more they have to do things by flows, and the acre they have to agree and the more they have to follow the rules, and the more broken the piece becomes.

What they’ve done is picked up an implant phrase and done a mock-up on it. They can do it… they can do this. They pick up some kind of an implant or some kind of a terrible upset or a conviction of some sort or another, and then they’ll go ahead and, my lord, they’ll carry that cross clear up to the top of Golgotha and get themselves nailed on it, and uh… very few of them go to the point of getting the… the uh… gall bladder stuffed in their mouth or something like that – little Christian niceties – uh… but uh… they… they… they will be just about as good as this as they know about Christ. They’ll add no new data to the situation.

And as you bail up out of it, you find out, all of a sudden, that the universe starts surrendering to a Spirit of Play, and that one of the Spirits of Play is „Let’s pretend.“ And „Let’s pretend“ is a very important thing, because of course it’s a pretense, and it couldn’t be anything else but pretend.

This is an overt act against religion, and the person has been made guilty in terms of some religious cult, and so on and the only reason that could ever happen to him is because at some time or another he has deserted a group which was a high ethical group and after that he can become prey to other things.

And you go around worrying because uh… you go around… you see, all of these things have a MEST mockery. Anything theta can do, after it’s been corrupted by MEST, turns into a mockery. And… and you say – „The „let’s pretend or not take it serious“ must be bad.“ If you’re saying this, then you are probably looking at insincerity. A person has already taken it serious, and then has abandoned that. And so he kind of snipes and snarls and so forth, and he uh… uh… knocks to pieces the nomenclature of writing or motion picture making or something of the sort, and runs a lot of… of ss… sneers into it along the line. You know – Time magazine, New Yorker – just beneath contempt.

Man’s degradation always stems from his first desertion or breakage of, really, the Code of Honor. He breaks the Code of Honor and after that he starts downhill and he gets worse, and worse, and worse, and worse, because his trust in himself is worse and therefore he can’t trust what his own space is or his own energy is or anything else.

Uh… this sort of a… of a bored, uh… insincere uh… mockery and so forth. Well, you understand, it’s got to have something to mock before it can mock, and it doesn’t have anything. That should tell you immediately where they must sit on the tone scale. They don’t have anything, but there has to be something they can mock, or something they can be insincere about.

So this is a completely wild picture when you look at Man’s location in the MEST universe and what he has or has not been through. The picture is just incredibly wild. And you start to search through facsimiles to set this picture to rights, all you’re going to find is the track of agreements which lead him to finally agree to be what he is right now. Now you’ll be able to map that, but as far as his identities being shifted in space, being shifted in time, all of these things – of no importance. The dickens with it.

So that means that somebody must have been sincere about this above an upper level. They might be up tone scale from the sincere guy or they might not be. That’s beside the point. But when you’re dealing in terms of insincerity and you get „mockery of sincerity,“ the guy’s already bought seriousness – and failed. A guy who does that one has already quit. And it is a form of apathy. „We’ve got to make fun of it because we can’t do it.“

And you… if your poor… if your poor psycho can only realize this, brother, it doesn’t amount to two whoops and a collar button what you’ve done, where you’ve been, who you’ve butchered, how many crosses you lugged to Golgotha, oh, that… that’s really vicious. You go down an… an insane asylum corridor and you see these religious implants are just leaping, it’s something in the order – it’s at least one out of three inmates in any asylum are spinning on religion. Why? God occupies all space. That’s all you have to convince a guy and he’s dead. That’s right, that’s all God’s space and any space which you occupy will be God’s. Oh, brother, just look at that as an operation. The guy can’t throw out any anchor points of his own without getting God into that space. And he’ll spin like a… like a spinning mouse if he finally gets this down the line.

And it’s the sort of the… the… the snide, sharp cracks of the ball player who’s sitting over on the bench. He’s being very witty at the expense of the guys who have replaced him on the team. It’s bitter. And there’s nothing more serious than that kind of bitterness.

And you look down these things and you find these guys are trying to depend upon or trust upon the other thing that they’re worried about, God help them, is they have found out how perishable a commodity ARC is in this universe, how perishable; they have had an ARC break with the rest of the race.

All right, so where do you go up tone scale from this? You get up into the band of – where? „Let’s pretend.“ Well now, you say, „That’s kid stuff.“ Yeah. Ummm. And boy, do they knock it out of the kid in a hurry. „Now look, Johnny, it’s all very well for you…“ Or use it on him – oh, I’ve… I’ve seen this happen to some poor kids: „Now, Johnny, you know very well that Hopalong Cassidy would have eaten his cereal.“ And uh… the poor kid gets roped in these days. They’ve set up all sorts of mock-ups for the kid to buy, instead of the kid fixing up mock-ups. Well, of course, that’s about the fastest thing you could do to a kid. If you want to put him up at the top of the chute and really shove him to the bottom, give him some beautiful, engraved, pure lead pistols. Hmm-umm. You’ve given him a MEST object, and corroded it with an illusion. There it sits in his hand. Oh, he’s much better off with his thumb and forefinger. But the truth be told, it’s a much more important and interesting game to simply mock up the weapon.

Now this actually violates the individual’s own reality. It actually violates any way he would set up a universe if left to his own devices. He would set this thing up on a high-level ARC and try to keep it there, but he has been tricked here into believing that certain things comprise ARC and he… he’ll – all of a sudden you t… start tracing back a preclear’s life – where are his major ARC breaks? And he all of a sudden realizes that this human being’s no good and that human being’s done him in and that human being’s no good, and that he can’t help some other human being, and this sort of a progress has been setting in on him just… just year in and year out and he has never found this out.

And if you’re going to deal with energy, have it shoot. What… what’s the kid doing with a hand? Let him make a weapon of his own design and blow the hell out of Johnny.

A human being finds it almost impossible to do these two things – one, be a driven slave under the whip of energies and necessities and spaces which are not his own, and to be at the same time a real being.Hefinds it almost impossible to cross the MEST universe with faith, hope, charity, love, friendship and so on. It’s dog eat pig.

„Let’s pretend“: when a man loses his Spirit of Play, he’s dead. That means that guys start dying at about 3.0. And sure enough, 3.0 down a guy will tell you, „Well, I had some illusions when I was a kid, but I’ve lost all of those. I’m practical now. We’ve got to face this thing practically, and what we’re doing here is very serious, and the reason I work hard at the office every night and work until ten or eleven o’clock is I have to keep those Cadillacs going. And uh… help keep the Cadillacs going because of the social position of the wife, you know. And uh… it’s terribly important, and so forth, and keeping the big house going, and that sort of thing.“ Some night he goes home and she’s run away with the chauffeur. This uh… and he says my heart is broken and all is lost.“

Look at… look at the way… look at the way the food system’s rigged. If anything is silly, it’s rigging a food system so that every time a being eats, something has had to die. Isn’t that wonderful? Every time a being eats, something has had to die even if he’s eating celery. The cells that go to make up that celery are live cells, that’s livingness. Here is theta has got this weird endless chain.

Why? Why does he say this? Isn’t that… isn’t that fascinating. He’s got a MEST object which he kept giving things to until he had it enMESTed thoroughly, then he wondered why it went down tone scale so it didn’t have any morals and no responsibility. He introduced the factor of automaticity to such a degree that nothing could exist, except matter. And then he wonders why the boy has trouble at college. „What’s all this? Yeah. The gods have afflicted me“ he says, as he stuffs another spoonful of decayed whale down his gullet.

Go out and look at the sea sometime if you want to see how bad off theta can be. Take… take a big spotlight down in tropical waters and shine it into the water alongside the thing and then… then just… just watch. You don’t have to do anything, just turn on the spotlight and the little fish will come up to see what’s happening to the… in all this light, because they figure light=algae, that sort of thing and uh… they’re eating the algae, and the next thing you know there’s a flurry and a flash and there’s another big fish in there and he leaves a lot of maimed little ones and then he comes back and eats two or three of those, and then there’s a big flash from the bigger fish that’s suddenly cut in half by a barracuda and there’s a big flash because this time there’s blood in the water and you see a big barracuda come in there and then you see the slow lazy turns of a shark and Mr. Shark will come in there. Mr. Shark looks… looks awfully religious, he… he… he… he is… he’s… he’s very nice.

You want to know what’s wrong with your preclear? Well, your preclear is too serious. You want to know what seriousness is? Seriousness is solidity. You ever hear of a „solid citizen“? You want to get something done, don’t get any of these serious boys. Shoot them on sight – or process them. But if you want to get something done, don’t have anything to do with them.

You know he has lids on his eyes and he can blink at you particularly when he’s dying, the most touching blink you ever saw. And uh… so Mr. Shark comes in there and starts to mop the joint up and then maybe a couple of sharks will get in a fight and then the shark that gets wounded gets eaten up by the rest of the sharks present, and if you’ve ever seen a bloody swirling turmoil that will really turn you just a little bit gaggy and cold, just do that trick sometime in tropical waters.

There’s nothing succeeds like insouciance. Plain flippancy will actually get more done in less time than anything else you can name. That’s a funny thing, isn’t it? It’s not serious; the guy’s flippant. The guy says, „Oh…“ It’s something like… There’s there’s more battles have been won for some general by some sergeant, or something of the sort, that said, „Well…“ Oh, by the way, one of the ways that Tamerlane really made a reputation was knocking in Hashshashin’s headquarters. Timourilang, the Iron Man, the Great Limpur – oh boy! He was good and serious. He had a sense of humor, though. You know this uh… this uh… old uh…old thing about the guy with the gold uh… Midas? You know, he couldn’t eat his gold, and he… that goes around a lot. He evidently, possibly, initiated that. I think it was in Cairo, and uh…he heard that the sultan there was very, very wealthy and when he got to the gates of Cairo, why there was no army, and he went in and he couldn’t understand this. He said, „What the devil? You’ve got all that gold and you can’t buy yourself any protection? Well, we’re going to be good to you.“ So he shut the guy in the tower with nothing to eat but his bags of gold. I think the legend more or less originated there. He had his flippant moments too, but kind of grim.

Now that’s… that’s… this universe then throws some sort of a… of a vile curtain across things. It’s… it’s an interesting thing, one of the commonest incident you’ll find in pcs is somebody telling them what they really face in the MEST universe and making sure that the guy knows how bad it is. Just… just… just pounding it to them, and then just breaking them down and showing them how degraded he is and so on.

They used to make pyramids of… the Khan, Genghis Khan used to make pyramids of skulls. Fascinating.

They get a fellow… you see, if a fellow didn’t consent to become degraded one of the fine days he could just suddenly throw out his chest and there would be a sort of a flash and a tinkle of glass and a faraway cry of the inventor of this place as he fell through all of his own space.

Uh… his idea of flippancy was just a trifle grim. For instance, one time 35,000 soldiers surrended to him and laid down their weapons and so forth, so he put them in the center of his camp and at twelve midnight had his troops slaughter them. He accepted their surrender because he would never take a man who was not taken without arms in his hands.

I think he should fall through all of his own space endlessly myself, I think we should have endless space, a sort of a circle with leading type gravity. Because look at that, every… every sensation, then, every sensation is based upon some debasing thing. This is not native to theta, theta can be pushed in that direction. Because bad and good are practically without classification, but it can be pushed in that direction and it can be trapped in that direction and it can be made a slave to do this sort of thing, but God help us. The fellow who has had these ARC breaks, ARC breaks, ARC breaks, down the length of his life, what he’s doing is making the basic error of supposing he’s on his home ground.

He would have nothing to do with a man who was not taken… not fighting. A guy could only expect mercy at the hands of the Khan if he had about ten of the Khan’s best troops dead in their tracks at his feet.

He is underestimating the amount of power and force that is driving or that the… his friends think are driving them. He’s faced, then, with people who are not able to act out of their own election but people who are caught enmeshed and enmired in a world where something has to die before anything can live.

Now he had a code he ran on, pretty down scale and all that sort of thing, but it was there. Well, he got a big reputation one time that he didn’t deserve really at all. He kicked in this stronghold, he heard this stronghold existed, his troops were just tremendous. Those little guys were just fascinating to look at. Anyway, he… he uh… took this citadel, and this citadel – Hashshashin had more or less controlled a large section of Asia at one time or another – it was more or less in decadence. And one man was responsible for taking it.

Now it’s… you’re undoing then a very strange picture. You’re undoing a very strange, complex and upsetting picture.

They had a rank called Kha Khan. Kha Khan was like a medal. It ten times forgave a person the death penalty. He could ten times incur the death penalty and uh… not get it, if he became a Kha Khan. Well, this kid became a Kha Khan. But he, by his lonesome, scaled this tremendous citadel which had stood for hundreds of years completely impregnable to everything, and kicked open the front gate. He went up a sheer mountain cliff and went over sheer towers and battlements and down into the midst of the enemy, and went in and opened the gate and took the castle. One guy.

You find… you think your preclear’s liked some of it, he’ll try to hold on to something because he’s liked some of it and you process him for a little while and all of a sudden – boom. He finds out that wasn’t the case, that he had himself kidded one way or another about that.

What do you think his idea of insouciance was? Everybody knew you couldn’t possibly do anything like that to that much MEST. It had stood for all these centuries and it fell to one man.

And uh… he… you find out that… he tells you probably that he won a prize and then we found out the award of the prize was getting up on top of a chute and going down the chute and getting all the emotions installed one after the other, and he gets to the bottom completely degraded. The emotional shoot, it’s just an incident. And so they had a big contest to find who the smartest thetan was in this area and at the end of this contest the thetan that had won the prize got to go down this chute. And of course that finished him.

Look down the line at the spirit of the men of great or murderous deeds, even here in the decadence of action on Earth, and you’ll find out they are strange boys, very strange fellows. They just kinda never kinda nailed down in the right places and did just exactly the right things. You looked in vain for the old school tie; you… you looked in vain for this or that. Like… like an ecstatic young ensign I saw once uh… standing on a dock, ordering destroyers to load up gas drums and freight them across to an island to make a refueling depot. He didn’t have any authority, the captain of the destroyer didn’t have any authority. Nobody owned the gas drums. They had just more or less come by those, and so forth. And th… this level of action is actually the kind of action that makes things happen in this universe. The second somebody makes something happen like that, into his tracks and into the vacuum moves conservatism.

You’ll find that comparative operation in Formosa, the little Nippo did 50 years ago or so, more than that, a grab of a little island called Formosa. Formosa up to that time was inhabited by the Chinese and had uh… its mountains were full of head hunters and uh… hut it had a lot of randomity and uh… people were quite sick on it. And the Nippo, however, has taken great care that no Formosan has ever risen to any stature that would permit those people to govern themselves, and uh… the way he has done it is by awarding prizes to learn the Japanese language and by carefully making a drug addict out of any potential leader that rises amongst the people. He carefully makes a drug addict out of him.

There was a great old fellow in China named Huang the Innovator, and Huang the Innovator practically turned China upside-down and right-side-up again and then upside-down and left it that way. But he organized a lot of systems; he organized a system of agriculture, he also organized the Ja… the Chinese civil uh…service which we use in this country. Uh… we don’t use Chinese in this country, but uh… we use the same system.

That is just typical of MEST universe control. You’ll find out that those people who best approximate the modus operandi of the MEST universe in methods of control are the most successful in the MEST universe.

Anyway, he invented that system, and uh… this guy was… he laid down the laws that are going to be this way and that way and the other way; and he laid them all down very nicely, and he had them all patterned out beautifully. But he himself didn’t kind of follow that. He was a wild man! He was a wild man. Nobody could ride up alongside of him. He had more women than he could count. Uh… and his whole principle was „The world has… has got to be in good shape“ and that sort of thing. Boy, he accomplished it in all directions.

Well, this is a complete reversal to the purposes and actual uh… hopes of… of a thetan; he… he… he knows this… this is just… just haywire. Ah… what? Evil is rewarded, uh… only evil is rewarded with success, you mean you have to follow along with these trickeries and twistings and turnings and upsets one way or the other in order to… in order to bring about anything like success you have to be a dirty double dealing dog? uh… uh-huh. But remember what the fellow who is successful wins, he wins MEST. And that, of course, is the trick within the trick within the trick within the trick.

And he actually laid down the spirit of innovation. And he said that without the progress, without change – and so on. He said all these things and he explained it all, these things and everybody said „Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, yes Huang. Yes Huang. Yeah – yeah – yeah.“ And then the old guy died and poom! In moved Chinese conservatism and there hasn’t been a stick altered in those things that he set up. I mean, it’s really rigid.

After a fellow has completely won the MEST universe, what does he have? He has, God help him, the MEST universe. But these tricks as they twist back and forth follow no good pattern of logic. Your thetan believes earnestly, it is very touching, this… this effect, he will believe consistently and continually and earnestly down to the bitterest day of his death that he has actually been trying to act somewhere within the framework of decency to the allowable uppermost limit. I don’t care whether he’s Pretty Boy Floyd or Mussolini or anyone of the sort. He thinks he had to do what he did when he did it in order to accomplish a goal of a wider level than… you know, he… he… he doesn’t think in terms really of evil goals.

He set up a static China’s never gotten off of. I was just giving you a look there. But he wasn’t serious and they were. And where’s China? It’s been „et.“ I trust that they found it very indigestible.

He’s… he sort of gets this way and he gets that way and he gets his values assigned some other way and he gets these things crossed up. And he tries to figure out this riddle. And maybe he hasn’t got a very good think tank to figure it with.

Everybody who has desired China, by the way, has always ultimately found it awfully indigestible. Here we have these same laws at work.

And uh… the next thing you know, why, uh… he’s finding himself doing the damnedest things.

Now uh… how does this all apply on the level of processing? I’d hate to think that your goal was to get your preclear serious about his sanity. He… you would never accomplish your goal, then. Never get him serious about his sanity. He’s had seriousness piled at him until you can actually just trigger a line charge by explaining everything to him in a careful tone of voice about how serious he’s got to be about this. You could just explain it to him, sit and explain it to him carefully, that you don’t want any laughter. You don’t want him to take these things lightly, you see. You just keep piling it on him in this wise. He’s getting a type of selected flow he didn’t know existed before, and that alone will free him somewhat.

Well, to a limited degree he is successful. But all such successes are disposed of and any kind of success is disposed of. The reward of the most successful writer in the whole universe is a loss of his ability to write. The final reward of it.

You can get some preclear, talk to him that way and he’ll start line charging. He’ll… he can… you can get a guy line charging for hours and hours and hours on that kind of a treatment, that’s all. Just get frantic to make him serious. You’re just piling on that kind of a flow at that particular wave length and wave pattern, and the guy just won’t stick with it, that’s all.

The reward of the greatest conqueror that ever rode with sword or tank or rocket wagon across the stars or across the steppes or any place else was not just six feet of earth. It was infamy, utter debased infamy. It didn’t matter what he started out to do. He wound up doing about 180 degrees different.

Now an individual who has lost an inability to differentiate amongst waves, types of waves and intentions – in other words practically anybody from four on down – has run into this upset about flows. So you could… you could shift on such a person, „All right now let’s run the flow Agree – Agree. Now run Have to Have – Have to Have. Now let’s run the Beauty of Having to Have – Agree.“ He runs them all the same, and with the consequent idiocies which you see in those charts.

So remember this when you look at your preclear. You’re looking at a puzzle that every time an individual started to go in one direction to meet a goal, the game was so rigged that he wound up with a… just exactly the opposite polarity of goal.

And you can run those for an awful long time because if you let things inflow on him too hard and too long and that sort of thing, why if you’re not pretty expert, you’ll get things collapsing on him and he’ll get more and more solid.

That which a person works hardest on, he winds up having. That’s one of the fundamentals of this universe. That to which he devotes energy, he finally has. How do you work this out?

So what do you want to do? You want to permit him to occupy more space, and you want his thoughts and incidents and that sort of thing to occupy more space. So w… what do you do? You approximate flows, dispersals and ridges with mock-ups, which have lots of space. And every time you make him do a mock-up, you just give him some better anchor points. Give him more space to put it in, and move it in more space. And give him more space and more space and more space until all of a sudden he says, „Why am I worrying about the fact that Earth occupies this… its own space which is coincident here? I’ve got a lot more space, and I can put things out a lot further than that.“ We can do this in a big way and it becomes interesting to him.

Matter is condensed energy. So therefore, if you keep pouring out energy on something you will eventually have it. I mean, it’s just as simple as that. It’s just horribly simple.

You see that… that – another trick of this universe is, the test of reality is SOLIDITY! Naaaa! Anything nebulous isn’t real. The only real thing there is, is an idea. There isn’t anything more real than an idea. Nebulous? It doesn’t exist in space and it doesn’t have any energy connected with it.

Now we’ll get a group that is, you see, we… we’re actually in a very strange situation. That’s why I can speak up well in advance of your own experience on this line is I… I know what you’ll find.

So you see how far around your preclear has gotten twisted, on what’s real? Give him more space.

You might sit there; an auditor would say, „My God! Gee, this sure is wild. Boy, how wild can this get.“ Believe me, it can get a lot wilder than I’m talking.

Now, I’ll give you uh… a very brief statement here, of the process connected with this. The test of how much space a preclear has: have him put a toothpick out in front of him, a mock-up, and have him move it an inch away. See if he can do that well. Now have him take that toothpick and move it about four inches closer to him – the mock-up of it, you know. And then have him take this toothpick and move it about ten inches away from him; and then two feet away; and then much closer to him. And then much further from him. And then change the toothpick into something like a lead pencil of his own creation. And move it close to him and away from him and so on. And then change that into such objects as trees, walls, solid objects. And have them move close to him and move away from him. And each time, be awfully careful with this process, that you get a proper gradient scale. And move that item in time, that is to say, „had it yesterday, will have it tomorrow.“ And change its location.

And… and you’ve… you’ve got somebody that every time he had a goal, every time he postulated a goal, he postulated simultaneously his failure in the goal and didn’t know it. Every time he had a goal. We could bust that cycle. We can break it to smithereens.

But most of these should be played, for current lifetimes, straight in front of the preclear; and should be played around to the sides of him to get orientation points of earlier lives.

But get that. He wanted to do this and this. And he’ll find himself finally having accomplished that and that. He will find it now has an opposite meaning.

And what will you find? You’ll find your preclear that’s worst off can’t even anywhere vaguely hold a toothpick out in front of him. It comes in and smacks him one.

Let’s take the cops. You wonder why police forces periodically collapse. Why, you’ll have to have the heads of the detectives changed and the… the Chief of Police changed, and all the rest of the… the… the people in the City Hall changed one way or the other. They’re fighting crime, and they were putting energy on crime. And they’re putting energy on crime and they’re putting more energy on crime. And what do they finally have? They have crime. Now, that’s true and could work out this way, you see.

Why? Too many MEST universe objects have too convincingly tried to occupy the same space as he was occupying. At 40 miles an hour he has hit a tree. He was trying to occupy the space and the MEST universe object tried to occupy the space and he came off second-best. And this has happened to him and happened to him.

If they started putting energy on honesty and put more energy on honesty and… they’d finally have honesty. But they would just have to forget about crime.

Now we’ve got fast transportation here in this country. As you go forward you see the scenery flowing in toward you, flowing in toward you. It’ll kick into restimulation all of those space occupation incidents. It seems to tell you everything is moving into your space. Everything is moving into your space. And you get that flow-in and flow-in and flow-in and flow-in and flow-in, and flow-in. And of course, it’s an elasticity of flow. It’s over-reached itself and so it’ll pack into the space in front of the preclear.

You see, a criminal goes down and he busts into a store window, and then… then they… this happens a few times. And the City Council has to pass a law saying, uh… oh, this… this is common throughout the universe, had passed a law that after a certain hour nobody could be on the street, something like that. You… you’re not going to… you’re… you’re part of that town and you’re not going to break into any shop windows. And yet what do you find happening? That during certain hours of the day you find yourself restricted in the space in which you were permitted to move. Why? Because some stupid uh… yap out of some reform school or something of this sort has busted into stores too often. And you are penalized. That is law at work in the universe. Penalties, penalties, penalties.

There isn’t any reason why he shouldn’t be running the nearest facsimile to him five miles in front of him. Get that! There’s no reason why he ought to be running a facsimile an inch or two inches in front of his face. Boy, he’s bad off. He’s real bad off if he’s running a facsimile so that he’s in immediate perception of it. It ought to be out there about five miles.

You don’t have to commit the crime to be subjected to the law. Your group, any member of the group, the foulest member of the group gets the most attention under law. Your newspaper headlines for instance are given to the foulest murderer. They’re not given to the most honest citizen. There could be some citizen who, by his good works and winning ways and a few other things, had really improved the hell out of the town and he is just made an announcement that he’s just improved the devil out of this town.

The reason your individual keeps popping back into his head, the reason why he can’t get out of his head, this whole deal about amount of space available to the preclear; how much space can he own, how much space can he be in?

And so you look around and they said, „Yes, sir, there’s… there’s 92 acres of park fixed up and the kids have got a playground and… and this will cut down juvenile delinquency and everything else,“ and… and uh… sure he… he’ll… he’ll get some kind of a mention back alongside the obituaries or maybe when he’s dead why they’ll run it as part of the funeral notices and it will be the last line. Of course, much bigger right above it will be the name of the funeral parlor where he’s buried.

Your first condition: he is a point in space and he can occupy the space he has. Your next condition is, of course, he’s just backed up and dispersing a little bit because something else is trying to occupy his space.

But uh… this is typical, and so we get what is known as a dwindling spiral. And the dwindling spiral is based upon that principle – that on which one expends energy one has.

And your condition below that, and the worst of the conditions, is that he’s dispersed all over the place. He’s trying to occupy his space. That’s not dispersal because of an explosion; that’s because he’s been moved too often in too many spaces, and too many things have tried to occupy his space.

Now because you can break this cycle and because there is such a thing as auditing, it is quite safe for an auditor to audit. It’s quite safe for an auditor to audit because he can rehabilitate himself. He can knock this stuff out and particularly now with creative processing. The theory of validation processing arose in 1951. It was based on this, I… I concocted it because I saw that the more you validated something, why, the stronger it got, as a basic theory. So let’s see what we validate and start working out on validation processing and sure enough it works.

Solid objects have tried to occupy the same space he was trying to occupy. He’s ridden a… he’s ridden a… a… a dish – a flying uh… saucer or something of this sort. He’s ridden that thing into a glacier or a… or into a brick wall or into the side of a dark star. And brother, that thing really tried to occupy the space he was occupying. And it was trying to occupy it, and he hit something at a couple of light years’ speed, sometime. If you don’t think it’s really a sudden occupation of space… It’s shocking. It makes impacts, it makes ridges. A fellow gets convinced after a while that there’s… a solid ridge is still in front of him. He’s just hung up in an old incident where something tried to occupy his space.

But energy is such that every time you try to go toward a plus or good thing the guy’s bank will flip into a minus and, boy, if you’ve never examined this you’ve got a treat in store. In the E-meters’ uh… boxes Volney has a… a… history of that in the back of the E-Meter manual he’s sending out. Uh… pleasure moments, they’re running a pleasure moment with an E-Meter.

And the way you solve this is to run flows in toward him and flows away from him. And if you start running flows in toward him, flows of water, flows of ink, invisible flows, flows of blackness, ribbons, anything that moves in toward him. Just move them in toward him and move them away from him; in toward him, and away from him. And let him run flows against his sides, run flows this way. Mock up a body for him way out in front of him and let the flows run at that body. He’ll do that safely enough.

You say, „Let’s get a time you were eating a steak dinner.“ And the preclear starts to eat a steak dinner and all of a sudden there’s a big drop on the E-Meter. And you say, „What you dropping for on the E-Meter?“

You’ll find strange things. If you rig up a river, usually there insists on being driftwood in it. Oh, just run it.

And the fellow says, „Well, I dunno… I’m just… I’m running this incident but I… I’m really not enjoying this steak.“ And you say, „Well, what’s the matter?“

And you get then… you take the tension out of those things which have tried to occupy his space.

„Well, it reminds me of my poor husband.“

Now there’s a fluidity, a flow, which stacks a person’s space up. Everything has moved in on this guy. A paranoid is one on whom everything is impinged. There isn’t any, really, such thing as a paranoid. There’s such a thing as collapsed space.

And… very interesting, you can’t have any pleasure, you see. Uh… the goal is pleasure so you have pain. The goal is pain, you’ll have pleasure – goes in opposites. So every time you try to run a pleasure moment, any time you try to run a pleasure moment on a pc you’re going to get something or other, and then when you’ve run enough painful moments he’s going to extrovert and he’ll flip up the line, but that’s not breaking the cycle.

Now there’s the other reverse case, and this person has really got a special case, and that’s – he’s sitting in the middle of one explosion or he’s had a whole chain of explosions and he’s dispersing all over the place. Anything he tries to get close to him will just fly away. Kaboom! He can’t get any solidity up close to him at all. He gets thin.

The way you break the cycle is to really get what you validate. Put energy on what you want, therefore an auditor really hasn’t got a heck of a lot of business monkeying around too much with psychos and neurotics and… and ills and ailments – why should he?

There’s a big joke on the „suck-chiatrists“: most of their paranoids are dispersal cases that don’t have things up against them at all. Big joke, isn’t it? They aren’t classical paranoids at all. They aren’t being smashed up against, but they’re trying to hold on to keep something from going away.

This is probably a new thought to you, some of you, you’ve got yourself plotted out you’re going to help people. Good, good, nothing wrong with that, except this. This is something like turning a., a uh… 12 cylinder Hispano Suisa uh… loose in order to run between the kitchen and the living room.

And some of your „flow“ boys that get things are flowing in madly on to them and so forth, no, they’re keeping actually, actively, continually keeping this flow going in on themselves. Why? Because that’s one way of holding on! They’ve been in the middle of an explosion sometime and they know darn well that if they reverse this process and suddenly stopped letting everything come in on them, that the whole universe would fly away from them and they’d never be able to attain it again.

Now that’s just one of these minor, minor affairs. You see, once you’ve broken the cycle and you can make the able more able, let’s apply it to you first and let’s make that ability more able than that has ever been able to be able in this universe and let’s… let’s just fix it up so that short-circuits the action of the universe against you.

Now one of the things that occupies space and one of the operations by which space is occupied, is by falling. One is in space and he falls and he hits a planet or something. You know, you fall out of a second-story window and you hit Earth, you fall and you hit a planet. It suddenly starts to occupy the space that…

You’ll win, you’ll win because you’re no longer playing ball with the plus-minus set-up of the MEST universe. Oh, we… we’ve got a nice big win for you. Why, I… I wouldn’t uh… we got a nice big win for you, here it is, here it is, now you’ve got it? Well, what do you know? You’ve lost. I mean that’s typical. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised one of these fine days to see all sorts of… of… of… ships and beautiful women and cargoes of gold, and diamonds and pearls being flown… flown in here just like mad with ferry services and… and governments of the world trying to buy you off. The natural impulse is to halt an operation which will break the cycle called MEST universe.

Do you know that a person’s concept who has fallen too often has dropped many inches. A person’s concept of himself, in terms of mass. But in terms of space occupation has raised many inches. In other words, he’s hit and this has jarred his existing mass down, but because something has tried to occupy where he was, he has backed off.

Oh, man, the guys who are being the most victimized by it are trying the hardest to keep it ticking, keep it ticking. All you’ve got to do is just step off that line. Just step off that endless belt, and just… just skip its idea of every time you win you’ve got to lose and every time you lose there’s some win connected with it and it’s all parity and that sort of thing. You can actually turn around just off of that use of creative processing and the rehabilitation of your own universe and your own capabilities. You can turn around and you can make this universe do anything you want it to do. It will do anything you want it to do, if you want it to do anything.

Now his first action as he sees that planet come along is to do what he would do in his own universe, which is suddenly pick that planet up and chuck it the hell out of the road. And he fails… and he fails to do it. That’s why you can’t run these falling engrams worth a nickel on individuals. He just flops when he tries to do this.

Now we wonder… we wonder about this – can you really reverse the vectors on the MEST universe? You sure can. You sure can, but don’t think you’re going to do it without a screaming, smoking flash because there… it’s not a mild one. But you see you’re playing the MEST universe’s game. All this is too incredible. No… nobody believes it. What do you know.

And so you’ve got the stuck visio. Well that visio is, you’re trying to move the object. Let him create mock-ups in trying to move objects and you will solve this idea.

Supposing you, as a group, suddenly decided to wipe out crime in the United States. Supposing you just decided to do that. Now you devoted your attention to crime and so forth, well, you know the MEST universe’s rules of opposites. You’d know you’d have to put your attention on honesty in order to wipe out crime. So you’d take all the criminals and you would make sure that they made sure that they set an example of honesty so everybody would be honest.

Now you get mock-ups out in front of him, mock-ups out to the side. You’ll find out in past lives he wasn’t facing the direction he’s facing now. He was facing some other direction. So you have to run these things in a 360-degree sphere around him: up from the bottom, down from the top. You’ll find falling incidents hitting him from above him and things like that. I mean, he isn’t in orientation with… just regard to where he is.

That sounds strange but that’s what you would do. It would be a very successful program. Uh… you would just put the police, you would put the police in cages so to speak. And you would… you would set the criminals up so that uh… the criminals up so that the criminals were very sure that uh,. they weren’t fighting crime, they were just making sure that everybody was being honest.

So you do mock-ups to solve this business of too much space crowding up on him and trying to hold the space and objects from flying out away from him.

You could form an organization with… not even with Scientology, but just something like Alcoholics Anonymous uh… which would uh… make every criminal responsible for one more criminal or something of that sort, just treat it as a disease and it would work out right there without any processing. You could end crime. You could end it utterly. And uh… you can win is what I’m trying to tell you, because you start tracking back with your preclear through he was here and he was there and he was shifted someplace else and his identity was so-and-so and he owned – the hell he did, the MEST universe never let go of anything yet.

And your thinnest guys, the real thin guys, the… the this… this… there’s a typical paranoid. I mean, he’s… he, he’s a strange looking boy – typical. He’s a type. You run into him time after time. He’s holding on like mad and he knows he can’t hold on to anything because it’s all flying away anyhow. And boy he holds on to everything.

After a fellow has built something out of the MEST universe, it still belongs to the MEST universe. He’s maybe got a label on it but that’s an identification. It just says it’s MEST. And so he goes on with this endless chain and he gets nothing when he finally finishes; there is no reward.

And your other fellow is trying to push things off of him all the time and he can’t push things off of him because they’re going to move in on him willy-nilly.

And as a net result we have, when we look this picture over there, we… we see that an individual in order to win has to get off the treadmill of the win-lose built-in little gimickgahoojit in the MEST universe. He… he has to get off of that treadmill because it is pure deception. And when I tell you about some preclear being… being flipped from this body into that body and elsewhere and this being done and that being done and he getting ‘tween lives and he’s given goals and he’s given missions, he’s supposed to do this and he makes products, all that sort of thing – every one of those is a trick and a trap. You’ll have what you devote energy to, but remember that it’s your own energy you’re devoting to it and it doesn’t necessarily belong to the MEST universe at all.

If you want to… want to just give a preclear a good run sometime, let him ride backwards in an automobile. One preclear will do all right riding backwards in the automobile, another preclear will do all right riding frontwards in the automobile. Depending on the preclear, that will be the therapy. You can actually let him sit and watch the MEST flow away from him and get a big relief. Or you can let him sit and watch the MEST flow into him and he’ll get a big relief. But just do the opposite: the guy that too many things are flowing in on, let’s make him face forward. „Oh, no!“ He gets nervous. He gets upset about his driving. And the fellow who has things flowing away from him, if we let him ride backwards, he gets sick at his stomach.

When you devote your own energy to it, you’re going to have something worth having, but when you insist on having that energy handed to you by the MEST universe, you’ll wind up with trash – every time. So what I’m trying to stress here is the confusion that’s the MEST universe is not even uh… important anymore to address even vaguely. All you have to do is rehabilitate the individual’s ability to handle his own and make his own space and energy. And only then can he or you be sure what is happening.

All right, so let’s place things to him, and place things away from him and solve by creative processing, mock-ups, this whole situation of contracted space, and you’ll find that you’ll be able to take your psychotic – instead of getting jump-jump-jump every few days, you’ll be able to get it, with creative processing, jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump.

In a moment, next hour, I will cover… I will cover these contradictory flows to show you how the MEST universe flows are set up and what’s wrong with them.

And that’s the way your case ought to go, and anytime when your case is slowing down on you and it isn’t doing that, it’s because you’re not resolving the problem of space and you’re not getting particles further apart for this guy. And therefore you won’t be solving the case.

Now let’s take a break.

Now I hope you know the primary requisite of creative processing: assist him to do what he’s trying to do so he won’t give a damn after a while whether he’s doing it or not, and he’ll get well. And that’s in terms of objects in space. Let him handle them. And that is the… actually the rock- bottom principle of creative processing. Thank you. I’ll see you at eight.